tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post113863838732991960..comments2007-02-18T18:07:43.972-04:00Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1144302540043169382006-04-06T02:49:00.000-03:002006-04-06T02:49:00.000-03:00

Eli<BR/><BR/>"at least stand up and say it and not hide behind 'anonymous' like a coward."<BR/><BR/>This is very arrogant to say. Has it not occurred to you that people may not wish to be identified for reasons other than cowardice? i for one would not want to be identified by you for fear that you would tell me i was unsaved for questioning you and your infallibility.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1140194531620203112006-02-17T12:42:00.000-04:002006-02-17T12:42:00.000-04:00

Burdened (for what, the lost?)<BR/><BR/>I do not question everyone's salvation, but I do question some.<BR/><BR/>First of all you say: "You say that education is not important or essential."<BR/><BR/>Then you say: "You have mentioned continually that education isn't necessary." So you've changed your accusation...<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you finally see that I did not say the first thing. And in regard

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1140045377527025102006-02-15T19:16:00.000-04:002006-02-15T19:16:00.000-04:00

Eli,<BR/>I almost can't believe your arrogance! I've challenged your ideas, you challenge whether or not I'm even close with Jesus. I'm actully losing faith in your integrity at this point. Everytime someone disagrees with you, you question their salvation! <BR/><BR/>You have mentioned continually that education isn't necessary. That's the point of the debate. I wonder if you've even read

Burdenednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1140017101845873592006-02-15T11:25:00.000-04:002006-02-15T11:25:00.000-04:00

Okay Burdened, friend, I see by your post you have not read the other posts at all. I really hate to carry this on, but this post of yours demands objection.<BR/><BR/>First of all, I will say this again for the millionth time: The Lord has led me out of school for the semester. If you simply cannot accept this, then I suggest 1) leave this blog or 2) Get in relationship with the Lord.<BR/><BR/>"

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139947225880940272006-02-14T16:00:00.000-04:002006-02-14T16:00:00.000-04:00

Whether I know you or not has nothing to do with what I'm writing. I would agree/disagree with what you were saying anyways.<BR/><BR/>Before you put yourself on a cross, realize that our posts are in fact trying to guide you on a wise path for ministry. It is very easy to step out on your own and "follow the Holy Spirit". I do know that when God's will becomes apparent for someone, there is

Burdenednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139943803225087282006-02-14T15:03:00.000-04:002006-02-14T15:03:00.000-04:00

Hi anon, yeah I was addressing 'anon'. Sorry about the mixup.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>No, brother, I am not angry, but I am finding myself frustrated, which is nothing new these days. Please try and understand:<BR/><BR/>I have simply obeyed the Lord and stepped out of school this semester, and have posted on here to let people know what is happening in my life.<BR/><BR/>Then all of a sudden

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139942903704456072006-02-14T14:48:00.000-04:002006-02-14T14:48:00.000-04:00

Eli,<BR/><BR/>For the sake of clarity, anon (me) and Anonymous (not me) are different people. The recent posts by 'Anonymous' timed at 6:48 pm and at 2:19 pm are NOT mine. The posts timed at 5:10 pm and 3:19 am are mine.<BR/><BR/>Your post timed at 1:30 pm is directed to 'Anon'. Do you mean me or the Anonymous poster (or posters)?<BR/><BR/>Just making sure we're all on the same page...

anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139941141553747972006-02-14T14:19:00.000-04:002006-02-14T14:19:00.000-04:00

Eli,<BR/><BR/>you have yet to tell anyone whether you are involved in your ministry with the local church. I find your sense of self defense a signal that in fact the Holy Spirit is trying to tell you something. You are young and have much to learn and I would not shun the advice that others are throwing your way, positive or negative. I think above all things you should remember to be humble.

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139938217252004732006-02-14T13:30:00.000-04:002006-02-14T13:30:00.000-04:00

Anon,<BR/><BR/>I don't understand your post. You too have overlooked all I've said. I haven't said once that local churches are bad, but you are insisting that I must declare local churches are the paramount of Christianity today, and this I will not do. The point of evangelism is indeed "to make disciples", not just to plug them into a local church. How this is done may look different. I agree,

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139901573725565822006-02-14T03:19:00.000-04:002006-02-14T03:19:00.000-04:00

Interesting quote, ricky. I like it! It reveals a heart with a burden for reaching the lost. <BR/><BR/>John Wesley entered Christ Church College of Oxford in 1720 and graduated with the degree of Master of Arts in 1727. He spent seven years studying (at Oxford, no less!) before preaching in those fields.

anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139894148352798802006-02-14T01:15:00.000-04:002006-02-14T01:15:00.000-04:00

"To this day field preaching is a cross to me, but I know my commission and see no other way of preaching the gospel to every creature". <BR/>John Wesley

ricky earlehttp://repentcanada.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139870904681803262006-02-13T18:48:00.000-04:002006-02-13T18:48:00.000-04:00

Eli Said:<BR/>"We can all make this blog more productive and less argumentative if we LISTEN to what each person is saying and allow the Word of God to be our guidepost to everything we say... not human wisdom."<BR/><BR/>As I can tell, you haven't been listening to anyone. Logic has made excellent points about being involved with your local church and about education as being important to being

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139854342764853652006-02-13T14:12:00.000-04:002006-02-13T14:12:00.000-04:00

I loved Dr. Pointer, his death changed my life.<BR/><BR/>I also respect Dave Storey and consider Him a great brother in the Lord with a heart for the lost. Much of the reason he is so controversal is that he takes the Bible seriously, and this stirs up the church-goers, much like this site has been doing.<BR/><BR/>Brother Logic, first of all, we have gone over this before: I agree that education

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139780685952040202006-02-12T17:44:00.000-04:002006-02-12T17:44:00.000-04:00

In response to anon, 5:10PM:<BR/><BR/>Anon, your arguments are excellent. Excellent point about Paul. Faithful to education.<BR/><BR/>Your point reminded me that every good theologian has good education. Is theology necessary for evangelism? Well, if you don't know and understand God, how can you share this knowledge with other people?<BR/><BR/>I agree with your point about Dr. Roy Pointer,

Logicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139780315671273582006-02-12T17:38:00.000-04:002006-02-12T17:38:00.000-04:00

In response to Luke Coughey, 9:48AM:<BR/><BR/>While I never advocated that a doctorate in theology or a salary of $60,000+ are necessary conditions for evangelism, I definitely hold to my position that education can only be helpful in sharing the gospel message clearly and effectively. Obviously evangelism is about sharing the gospel, and about bringing God glory by bringing more worshippers

Logicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139778793924425142006-02-12T17:13:00.000-04:002006-02-12T17:13:00.000-04:00

In response to Anonymous, 9:35AM:<BR/><BR/>If you wish to have knowledge of the local church I attend, and the education background I have, you will have to post your email so that I can send my information to you directly.<BR/><BR/>-Logic

Logicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139717426359418952006-02-12T00:10:00.000-04:002006-02-12T00:10:00.000-04:00

anon said... <BR/>In response to Luke Coughey's post (9:48 am).<BR/><BR/>"Dr. Roy Pointer was one of the best preachers that I've heard, and he had a doctorate."<BR/><BR/>Funny, I heard Dr. Roy Pointer a time or two when vacation in Fredericton and although I agree that he is a learned man, I found him to be boring and I don't recall having learned a thing from him. <BR/><BR/>However

Angelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01682533716185749335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139713295580378882006-02-11T23:01:00.000-04:002006-02-11T23:01:00.000-04:00

I believe our shallow concept of ministry is faulty.<BR/><BR/>I'm not against education, but you are against uneducation. I am for both, you are for one.<BR/><BR/>Let me show you from the Bible what is the qualifications for ministry:<BR/><BR/><I>"If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139605846958752902006-02-10T17:10:00.000-04:002006-02-10T17:10:00.000-04:00

In response to Luke Coughey's post (9:48 am).<BR/><BR/>First, there were no Christian educational institutions in the first century AD. So Jesus couldn't possibly have told his disciples to get education. Otherwise maybe he would have (can't, of course, be proven one way or the other).<BR/><BR/>Secondly, Paul was chosen to be the apostle to the gentiles becasue the Lord saw that he was faithful.

anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139421581069544422006-02-08T13:59:00.000-04:002006-02-08T13:59:00.000-04:00

Hey Eli, <BR/>You don't know me, but I just wanted to say, go for your dream. God will be there with you, standing by you always, and thats all that matters. If you ever lose strength, turn to Him. He's there for you, and so are many people according to this blog spot. Good luck on your new journey!<BR/>God Bless! xo

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139406504201834442006-02-08T09:48:00.000-04:002006-02-08T09:48:00.000-04:00

I don't think the great commission said, "Go get a Doctorate in Theology. Then seek a position in a church that will ordain you and who is willing to pay you a salary of $60,000 or more. Then go preach the Word to those who come through the church doors."<BR/>Evangelism isn't about a degree or about the money. It is about the Lord our God! Everything that Eli needs to spread the Good Word is

Luke Cougheyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12945610132936174927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139243355218797882006-02-06T12:29:00.000-04:002006-02-06T12:29:00.000-04:00

Vanity of vanities.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do you love Jesus with all your heart, soul, mind and strength?<BR/><BR/>Do you obey Him? Have you consecrated your life to God? Do you still live for the flesh?<BR/><BR/>Are you laboring in prayer for revival? Do you groan for souls? Is your heart cold?<BR/><BR/>Do you long for Jesus' coming? Do you walk in the Spirit? Do you bear the fruit of repentance?<BR/><

Elihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08568073345901129214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139146533972363662006-02-05T09:35:00.000-04:002006-02-05T09:35:00.000-04:00

This is a message for Logic. I'm just a curious impartial spectator in this Blog's postings and commments. Now you seem to put a heavy importance on education and local churches, and by your comments I can see that you have both. I'm just curious as to what is your educational and church background (if you feel that revealing your individual church would out you, then just your denomination). I

Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1139033003017547312006-02-04T02:03:00.000-04:002006-02-04T02:03:00.000-04:00

This is in response to anonymous, 4:39pm.<BR/><BR/>I was not attempting to argue that working for a para-church organization was bad. While I strongly emphasized that it is not biblical, I would not advocate that it is evil (bad). I would, however, submit that it is not the most effective, efficient, or best way to accomplish Christian goals and objectives.<BR/><BR/>Since, as you admit, there

Logicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17267677.post-1138999153730559182006-02-03T16:39:00.000-04:002006-02-03T16:39:00.000-04:00

Logic,<BR/><BR/>Great post. I really like some of your points. I'd like to follow up on some of them, if I may.<BR/><BR/>First, about the para-church. You're absolutely right that the para-chrch is not biblical. But does that mean that the para-church, or working for the para-church, is bad? Consider that the first century AD was one in which the church was just starting to get established. Any

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